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You know, some people think, if it isn't broke, do not fix it. In the case of endless game sequels, I heavily disagree. But at the same time, I think not finishing a series that needs to be finished is just as horrible. Imagine if Star Wars had no Return of the Jedi, If Portal didn't have Portal 2, or if the Series of Unfortunate events ended at book #12. It's not a series like, pikmin, or skate, where it could just end at anytime. I'm not trying to be immature and demanding a sequel like any other 10 year old NG user, but I'm saying, if you are ending it like this, it's a trash way to end it. I'm not mad, I'm just saying, this isn't logical. In some points in your post, I agree. You shouldn't continue the series just because a ton of 9 people told you to, I understand you are tired of the series, there are many things I've never finished, or that never reached my beginning intention because I didn't want to work on them or devote time in to them. If I had pushed myself to upload all the videos I got bored of and never finished, my video count would be in the hundreds. But if you are ending this, this way, through a newgrounds news post, not even making a video about it, that's just a dumb and scumbaggy way to end this series. Good Day Sir. I SAID GOOD DAY.

I think your theory is flawed. You can tell Star Wars: A New Hope was made with the intention of working as a standalone movie if it didn't get enough critical acclaim for any sequels. When they pressed on after finishing the original trilogy and made Episodes I and II, everyone hated them because they were completely uninspired. Portal didn't necessarily need a Portal 2, but it got a sequel because the developers felt like it could work. (It's also worth keeping in mind hundreds of people participated in making the Star Wars movies and the Portal games; it wasn't just one kid in his teens.)

Have you ever wondered why Valve never seems to make more than one sequel? They stopped at Half-Life 2, Portal 2, etc. But those sequels are incredibly well-received games. I believe the reason is similar to the reason I'm quitting this series. I've taken the series where it needs to go and there is no reason for it to continue if it's just going to be the same thing over and over again. The time it would take to make a Half-Life 3 or a Portal 3 could just as easily be spent working on something completely fresh and new from Valve's ever-maturing view of game design. Does that mean they have to make videos about the fact that they're not making threequels?

Riddle Transfer may have been intended to be a five-part series, but it stands on its own, and there is no need to bring it further than it needed to be. The cliffhanger could easily be considered an ending in which the characters escape. Perhaps not the most graceful ending, but then, neither are most series that never make it past one game, or one book, or one movie, but that's the way things are and there's no use questioning it when the future holds better things. I'm like you in that I also have a ton of projects on my computer that I've never decided to finish. But there is a good reason we never finish these projects. Quality is a more precious thing than quantity will ever be.

That said, why is this news post any less valuable than a video would be? I have sent off this series in the most heartfelt way that I knew how. I was literally shaking and close to tears before I posted this for the world to see. I sat in front of my computer for half an hour debating with myself whether or not I should click the "Submit" button. It was a heavier burden than you realize. Just as there is no reason for me to continue the series, there is no reason for me to do any more to leave this series behind than what I have done. I respect you as a fan of what I do, but your logic is badly skewed.

But you have a right to end it how you want to because you're the developer and I'm not trying to act like an ass. I don't hate you, you're cool, I just hate the way you decided to end such a big series.

The Half-Life 2 Episodes make up half-life 3.

Because Half-Life 2 was a two-part game? That's not the same thing.

Wait what? HL1, then HL2. HL2 is all of HL2. The episodes ae HL3 splitup into 3 different games.

I might have gotten my count off, but let me put it this way. Final Fantasy 8 was a game that took four separate discs to play all the way through. Does that mean it should have been called Final Fantasy 8-11?

That doesn't even matter. The point is, I've sent off the RT series in the best way that I know how, and I'm done with it. You are, in fact, the only person so far who has shown legitimate bitterness about my choice to announce the end of the series with a news post, and that leads me to believe that perhaps you'll never understand how much this news post means to me.

john my man don't give up im writing a BOOK and im only 13 and these games are half the reason i never stopped on it for me they show how much time somone puts into somthing but now you have given up you have ruined me and the rest of my book i have little to no motivation anymore

"Giving up" isn't always a bad thing, you know. Sometimes the best option is to leave something behind.

If I were to have made the rest of the Riddle Transfer series, it would have probably taken seven or eight years. That isn't an exaggeration. That is a stupidly long amount of time to waste on a plotline I wrote in about two weeks when I was 16 years old. I am 18 now. My views of art have improved. The RT series is a trash heap compared to what I believe I'm capable of doing right now, so why dwell on it any more than I need to?

You have every right to keep writing your book if you feel like it is the most valuable use for your time. I'm going to warn you, though, if you start writing a series of books right now, and you finish that first book and manage to get it published, you're going to look back on it in two years and say, "What is this crap? I could write something way better than this now. I never should have said this book was part of a series." At that point, you'll have a choice. Either you'll spend the next several years of your life begrudgingly writing the rest of this series you feel utterly ashamed of, or you'll realize it isn't worth it and take what you've learned to make something totally fresh and exciting.

and man if anything keep the game seires going in smaller parts like rt2 part 1 and such

its just gonna be one simple book man

What I said still stands. Everything we do is a learning experience. Every artist out there, whether they be making games or movies or books, is going to be ashamed of the things they made in their past.

I was 13 when I made this: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/
view/368870
And I was 13 when I made this: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/
view/375418

Nobody remembers these Flash movies. Both of these are the first parts of series that I started making, and they went the same way as the Riddle Transfer series; I realized they weren't worth finishing if I had more fun working on other things, so they're never going to be finished.

I was also 13 when I made this: http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/
view/380985

I thought it was the best thing I'd ever made, back when I made it. But it's total garbage. I don't even want to look at it anymore. It's just "one simple movie", but that doesn't change the fact that I'm ashamed of it.

This might also not seem relevant at first, but it's something I think you might want to apply to your own work, and it's something I wish I knew a long time ago:

A lot of game developers will tell you that if you ever want to get into game design, never start off with a big game. The first thing you make is going to be crap. It's just a fact of life, and it's one to embrace. The occasions in which a game dev's first game actually turns out to be a good one, are extremely rare cases. You have to build new things from what you learn.

I don't see how disgreeing is being bitter but whatever. You honestly can't tell me that you expected to make this post and no one would be upset about you canceling you're biggest series ever? That's a FUCKING JOKE.

Of course I expected that. But I didn't expect someone who has been so actively supportive of my work to respond profanely without any sense of understanding. At the very least, that's not something I hoped for, but it's obvious that you don't care.

Just never mind. I've basically just been pissing in a sea of piss.

Also I would like to point out that I did say I respected you're decision to end it because you're the developer.

And I would like to point out that I firmly believe this news post is the best way to end the series.

I'm not trying to make it sound like I disrespect your opinion, but I feel like more thought could have gone into the way you said it. I still think you're cool.

No hard feelings?

*high five and handshake*

And to be honest, there were some slight contradictions to riddle transfer, and even 5 in the first place.

Yeah, Riddle School 5 and Transfer are packed full of little contradictions and things that don't make sense. I notice more of them every time I look back at the series.

My Graphics Card can't handle LIMBO. :(

I doubt that mine can either. Which is a shame, because I'd really like to play LIMBO at some point :(

Tell me what graphics card you have. I have an extra key to that humble indie bundle that had it in it.

Is that game you were talking about in Yoshi's Story and Tetris Attack still in the works?

Oh, yeah, that was the quick little game I made for SuperJeenius.

oh. What is the difference between MX 2004 and Flash 8 Professional?

The main difference is that Flash 8 Professional has blur and filter effects. There are some other little things that I can't remember right now, but for those reasons, 8 is my favorite version of Flash.

I liked your older website design better. It felt like an actual site rather then a simple blog.

My site's current design wasn't made recently, it's been around for a year or so. I'm redesigning my website again to hopefully feel like a website. It'll be more like my older designs.

Yay. Maybe there could be forums cause youtube is a stingray and won't let you comment on your OWN CHANNEL

I am thinking seriously of adding a forum at some point, I just don't think it's worth making one yet.