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I've made the difficult decision to officially discontinue the rest of the Riddle Transfer series, along with anything directly associated with the Riddle School series or its characters.
When I came up with the first Riddle Transfer game, I'd originally intended to finish all of the games at once and release them after set periods of time, because the element of surprise about the series would have remained intact and the insistent requests for sequels would already have been met. I dropped this idea when the first game took me six whole months to make, which is a longer period of time than I ever anticipated or hoped to spend working on it. I spent the next fifteen months feeling anxiety about RT2, chipping at it from time to time hoping something would come out of it, and nothing has. I wanted so much to make RT2 and finish the other three games afterward so that those who liked the previous games would see the rest of the story and be contented by the continued content, but ultimately I have decided the end product simply wouldn't be worth the pains it would take to make.
My main motivations with RT1 were simple but ambitious. I wanted to change the way Flash games and adventure games were seen. People insist the point-and-click adventure game is a dead genre, just like people insisted the side-scrolling platform game was a dead genre, but that says nothing about its still-limitless potential. I believe the reason people think point-and-click adventures are a lost cause is because they haven't been "done right" yet. Often players are either required to skew their thinking to match the logic of the game developer, or look at a walkthrough because the logic is so obtuse. Some developers compensate for this lack of clarity by dropping ten-ton hints everywhere, but when the puzzles are too reliant on hints, there's no epiphanies or sense of discovery involved. I didn't want to make a mindless or frustrating game, but one that actually made sense and encouraged players to mentally piece things together to proceed; Riddle Transfer was meant to be taken seriously as a game that was truly satisfying. And I wanted to prove that this was possible with Flash, the same program most people use just to make simple little browser games that they can pass the time with when they're bored.
But what purpose would it serve to make an entire series like this? I already know what the response to RT1 was: people still cling to Flash games as a way to temporarily escape boredom and don't see the intended artistry in a carefully designed experience because the immediate expectation of a Flash game is 'quick and easy fun', and my game hasn't changed that. I may have created a game people found interesting enough to rate high and ask to see more of, but they missed the point I was trying to make. Perhaps it was a subtly-made point, or one that's easy to disagree with or pay no attention to because it isn't commonly emphasized. But for this reason, there is no point in continuing the RT series, because I know full and well that I could butter up the remaining games as much as I want, adding new puzzles or story twists or playable characters or whatever, yet at the core, they would be the same game as RT1 and would not bring anything new to the world of Flash game development. It would just bring me a little short-lived Internet 'fame', which is a terrible primary goal.
I pondered over the reasons why I would legitimately devote the next several years of my life to this Internet series, and for the most part, it boiled down to satisfying my fanbase. But since the time I started making the series, I've discovered a few things wrong with that mindset. Fans cannot comprehend the amount of time, work, and personal sacrifice it takes to make games of this size unless they have been in a very similar position themselves. Fans go by what they know, and what they know about you and your work is always going to be significantly less than what you know. If you aren't putting yourself in the perspective of the game's creator, it might at first seem selfish for them to terminate a project because they don't want their main goal to be satisfying others, and I've thought the same thing, but that's not what it's like. It feels less like providing enjoyment and more like a form of appeasement. You can't put hours of days of months of your life struggling to finish something you see no value or substance in anymore.
Long ago, I thought that the Riddle Transfer series would be worth making because of its storyline, and how everything would come together in the end in a climactic way, but looking back on it now, the ideas I had for the story were all very weak, partly because I had a less well-developed sense of story structure than I feel I do now, and partly because the foundations of RT's story were centered around very shallow, basic characters that don't deserve any limelight. As a level-headed bald kid with two big eyes who goes to school and makes sarcastic comments, the series' main character Phil might be an easy figure to relate to, and in many ways, he might be deeper than the average Flash game protagonist, but he's not deep enough for me. He's a surface-level reflection of my most basic thoughts, and it's easy for anyone to tell what nearly his whole personality is in a matter of moments. As a storyteller, if I'm going to make an effective and captivating story that will keep my own interest after dedicating to it for months or years, I want to write for a more believable, complex character than Phil Eggtree, and I don't want that story to be way too difficult to understand, full of contradictions, or in other ways disconcertingly flimsy like the plotlines of Riddle School and Riddle Transfer are.
People have told me I ought to stop working on the series if I don't feel like it's in me anymore. And I've finally come to terms with the fact that it's not in me anymore. An online friend of mine, TheWildALK, once told me I wouldn't go through with the rest of the series, and though I sought to prove him wrong, I discovered he may have had a point. I've thought about it hard, and there are no strong reasons I know of to keep working on this series. It had a good run, I'm really happy with how it turned out, and I've learned a lot of things from it, but I don't think there is anything else it can teach me that I couldn't be taught more adequately through moving on to bigger and better things. I've poured my heart into this series for a huge portion of my life; I'd be lying if I said I didn't feel like a small part of me has gone from making this decision, but I believe this choice of abandoning the series is for the best. My perspective on art and design has changed. I've realized potential in game design that has not been sufficiently touched upon, and if I dwell on the past any more than I have, I won't be able to test my theories or fulfill my goals for the future.
Thank you all for your overwhelming support to the series over the years. I deeply appreciate it.
For the sake of completeness to those who are curious, this post spoils everything that was going to happen in the series, had I opted to go through a half-decade of headaches to push it to its originally intended finish.
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I am going to make one last thing perfectly clear now:
No one has permission to continue the series.
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1 month ago
Thanks for the comment! But your games is still cool ill wait for your new game? Is point and click adventure like that games but its fine to play wat ever games you want to make you tell to others that you have ideas for your next game dont put like circle heads and eyes XD make like a normal person when you make a game its fine to do that circle heads and eyes im mean for 3 years still making circle heads change it Comment- :)
1 month ago
Omg! Riddle Transfer Cancelled Why i mean i read jon post about this but why i mean after so many years of intellegence of this game and ended T_T jon bro you disapointed you fans but its for the best your hardwork and skills really payed of from riddle school 1 to now you still have a smart thinking about the games like the riddle school characters you can make them in another game right? But thank you for the games that you gave us the puzzlez hints challengers even riddle school transfer mayber thats your most created riddle school series but dude what you will make now computer games? and do you make piko`s school i cant remember the name of the game but its a cool game but. You should really give up on this series i mean 3 years still cool game your first riddle school game is cool too you make challenging games in the riddle school series you hardiest is the pipe to get the fancy hat thats really hard to finish i even watch tutorials but goodluck to your new games Jonbro :))))))))))))))))) Wish you can read
This is a lot to answer at once! I think if I were going to do anything with the Riddle School characters again, I'd just give them a subtle cameo appearance in one of my other games. I didn't make Pico's School--Tom Fulp made that game, and Riddle School was heavily inspired by it. Recently I've gotten really interested in the idea of making computer games that are larger than online Flash games, but it's hard to figure out how I should go about making a large-scale game, because I'm not a master at programming games, and I'd like to make something that could be multi-platform. Thank you for the support :) I'll try to bring back Riddle School's charm and puzzle-solving in bigger and better games at some point.
1 month ago
Yeah Last Question: Whats your future Jonbro? I mean you made alot games like Riddle School know what your gonna make xbox, ps3 games? or Computer? Pretty sure your on ps3 and computer beacause you really smart at some puzzle even in the Riddle Transfer puzzles but thats my last question it so imbarresing to post too much comments in this post but thats ok i mean Riddle School 1 to Riddle Transfer thats pretty hard but i guees your final Decision is right you make your own games i saw some you comments mad in XxnillyxX comment you where mad in there but thank you for giving riddle school games like this goodluck !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
Well, thank you for all the kind words! I want to pursue a career in game design, actually. Not sure how exactly I'll go about doing that, but I've been planning and revising a particularly big game idea for the last three or four years that I want to make a reality someday, and at the very least, I'd probably like that one to be on Steam. Until then, I want to expand my game design ability by exploring genres I'm not as familiar with.
1 month ago
w8 they are safe but there so many guards they sure they couldent survive even theres like monster and dead ends thats weird?
1 month ago
wow.... you make these games for 15 months i mean its just circle heads like the monster who has a fancy hat forgot name i think bowling brain but i have to admit its hard to make puzzles even the tubes but W.M.R.S (Will Miss Riddle School)
1 month ago
wait but jon if someone made riddle school transfer 2 and you dont know is that illegal?
I'm not fond of the word "illegal" but that sounds accurate
1 month ago
plsss continue riddle transfer 2 last plssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss ssssssssssssssssssssssssss make finale T_T If not ill miss riddle school
I miss it, too, but I'm sorry to say I will never make it. I deleted my original files for every Riddle School game from my computer a while back to demonstrate the seriousness of my choice.
1 month ago
Beacause ill really miss riddle school series when i saw this game i`d played it for like 1 2 3? ?????etc i felt like this never end this series but when i saw this post i cant belive it ended JonBro just make the finale of riddle school plsssssssssss for the players that played Riddle School 1 to Riddle Transfer plsss make the last series has a great finale wish you could read this
(see previous response)
1 month ago
Um Jon why dont you finish of to da finale of riddle school to remember the players what you`d make.But thanks for all the Riddle School Games it was challenging but please make the last riddle transfer of the Riddle school Series you wanna end it in a way like that you can start the 5 characters in the sewers. My suggestion plss comment jon i really want you to make a decision to make a finale of riddle school series
I actually have made a couple of pretty long post on my site about why I don't want to continue the Riddle Transfer series. One of them is on my site:
www.jonbro.com / tangents / 2012-11-13.html
To kinda put things in perspective, people have been telling me to make "one more Riddle School game" for years, and I've kept listening to them, but last year I finally had to say, "I made 'one more Riddle School game', several times." I'm not going to make anything unless I feel inspired to make it, essentially. If I don't feel inspired to make something, it won't be very good.
I appreciate the message and the suggestion, although I am very passionate about my decision.
3/26/13
Can't say it isn't disapointing, it was a fun series, but if you say it's time to move on, who am I to argue. Can't say I would love it if you ever decide to make another game for the series, but since that seems unlikely, godspeed, and good luck in your other endeavors.
3/25/13
So jon, are we allowed to not continue the series, but make spin-offs, or some such thing? Like as you said in the spoiler post, Riddle Attorney? But in all seriousness, i would like to know, because i would love to see what others could do with the "riddle" name, without being canon.
To reiterate, "I've made the difficult decision to officially discontinue the rest of the Riddle Transfer series, along with anything directly associated with the Riddle School series or its characters." So, I've also cancelled anything non-canonical with the "riddle" name.
3/16/13
Man i had an ending for the last one you make was where all the charaters die slowly in a death maze
3/16/13
You cant quit man you can prove your friend wrong like i do to mine they said i cant make a castle out of huge paper but i built one and they said i cant build a bookcase your games are my whole life man you cant quit prove him wrong i know you can do it.
I know I can do it. But I choose not to.
3/7/13
I just want to say, thank you for the Riddle Series period. It was fun to play and quite frankly I constantly checked back on you just to see if there was anything new to play. You never disappointed me, not once. I love your series, your stories that you told with it, the character, just everything was something that I loved. I will still be checking on you for new games/movies/whatever else you make. You are truly one of my favorites and I hope you make more stuff, your stuff keeps me entertained. Thank you for Riddle School <3
2/27/13
Thank you for creating the series. I enjoyed my time. I like point and click adventures. Is there anything wrong with them? I don't see any. Or perhaps I can't..
I found RS quite a long time ago.. and to date it still is interesting for me to replay them even though I've already played them before :p
I don't usually find much in platformers or anything else. Cause in those there's hardly an aim or a story.. And I like mystery. That's probably a contributing factor.
I liked your awesome humor though ^^ If I have anything to say, what I enjoyed most was Phil's funny dialogues. Will miss it.
2/25/13
SuperRican has taken the words right out of my mouth. I don't game very often, and when I do I only follow a few game series', mostly point-and-click ones. Riddle School was one of them. I thank you for the good run that it had.
2/23/13
I am very curious about one thing. why do people sell cloro-fill drinks for 200 dollars if it taste like grass
Maybe it's... expensive to make. I'unno
2/20/13
First thing I would like to say, Thank you. This has been a great game series, even if the series isent per say completed. I remember browsing through newgrounds back in 2006 looking for a game to play. (Note: I was only 8 years old and did not have an account.) I came across Riddle School and i was interested in it. I played it and to be honest I didn't get Phil's humerus remarks. I am gifted to grew up early. By that I mean I matured faster than all my friends, at the age of 7 my mind started maturing. I started to see things clearer and understand more. That same year my dad got a desktop computer. I began to play games, and found myself to fancy more puzzle and logic games more than just some idiotic zombie shooting game. I started wondering if there were any point-click games, and came across those generic escape the room kinds. This did not bring me satisfaction, I felt as though there should be more than just trying to escape a room. Maybe a plot or some twists and turns. I gave up this search in the summer, and started to play shooting games like all other boys at my age. One year later and we're back to where i started when i found riddle school. I was intrigued so i gave it a try.(sorry if i repeat myself.)
I was truly amazed, a point-click game that had a bit of a plot to it. Short it was indeed. But, it felt different to all other escape puzzle games. This gave me hope. So i followed the riddle school series. Then RT came out. I played it yet another twist of turns! To summarize this all up, I got you point. I found your game series to be a different type of point-click game. I do not apologize for everyone who did not get the point because it is not my fault. Also it is certainly not yours. It's just how it turned out to be. I was one of the lucky ones to see your point. I am very mature beyond my age and that is a blessing and sometimes a curse. But, in this case it was a blessing. I am only 14 years going on 15 this year. Now, don't think i don't understand. I understand, I know how hard it is to keep on top of things and to work on a project for months or years. Not necessarily making a game, but i understand your anger, you made this series to get a point across to everyone. But, it did not stand out. So you find no reason to continue it. JonBro, I hope you see this comment. I know im a little late, maybe this will enlighten you a little.
I hold great respect for you, sir. Seeing your story from beginning to end gives me hope for the future. Thank you very much!
2/16/13
im sooo sad that you canceled the riddle series it may just be a seris to some people but to me it is one of the best things that i ever found i wanted something to challenge me but not to be too hard and riddle school was the perfect game seres goodbye forever riddle school i'll miss you :-(
2/10/13
Mmkay Jonbro, I understand what it feels like to go through half a decade of headaches.
But you need to know this.
Riddle School is just a series, but it wasn't JUST a series for me. It was my youth, along with a handful of other flashes.
You see, my youth was full flash things, flashes meant a lot for me. Riddle School was something I played for hours and hours on end, then i'd replay it the next day, and continue.
I'm not in my youth anymore sadly, but don't worry, I still play Riddle School c:
You made my childhood, not God, YOU. Thank you Jonbro, your exceedengly hard work has paid off for me. I hope it will for you one day.
I will stick around for your new games, but Riddle School and you, will both me in a special place in my heart.
Thank you, Jonbro, I love you, forever.
Oh, man. Thank you, I'm glad to have made such a difference in your life. It means a whole lot. I just hope I don't become a greater influence to your life than your religious faith. I only claim to be someone who tries to use art to make make captivating experiences for people, and I certainly don't claim to be the best at what I do :P
2/10/13
what is the next series you are planning on?
I don't know if I want to work on another series. I have plenty of ideas for individual stand-alone games, but we'll just have to see how those work out.
2/10/13
I wonder what happened when they escaped from the manhole?
At the bottom of this post, there's a link to my discarded plans for the series. For simplicity purposes, though, we can just assume they made it home safely.
2/8/13
Although RS and RT were just Flash games, it's a bit sad saying goodbye to the characters, even if they were flat and cliche (Phil was just a deadpan snarker, Phred was a slacker, Smiley was the girly optimist, and Zack was a plot device, etc.). Of course, it didn't help when your original ending had Phil growing up and actually gaining some development from his experiences.
Really hard to let this simplistic point and click series go but it was probably for the best to end it at Riddle Transfer than to let the series potentially jump the shark.
Thanks for the memories!
RIP: Riddle School #1-6 (I regard Riddle Transfer as the first series' finale)
2/3/13
so sad . =<
Sadness was inevitable, unfortunately. It had to end at some point. But I am glad you enjoyed it while it lasted, and I'll continue to try and make the best games I can.
2/3/13
I cant believe you are stopping the series!Riddle school was the first Newgrounds game i have ever played and And i it was the best games in newgrouns but you are stopping the series!!!
1/23/13
At first i want to tell you that your riddle school games are the best i have ever seen!!!I think you have a lot of imagination and i really want to thank you about making them!I understand how you feel about stopping the riddle transfer series.They need a lot of time to be made and you could spend your life making them.The only thing that i want from you(if you want of course)is to make some other puzzle games that dont need a lot of time to be made and they could be better than the riddle school games.Anyway,thank you you for all of your hard work and determination!!!!!
There's just one thing I think you misunderstood--I still want to make games that take an extraordinarily long time to make. I just want them to be more valuable to play than Riddle Transfer would have been :P
1/7/13
...As much as I love the series, I can understand how you feel. The main reason I loved the riddle school and transfer was because it was a good puzzle game, that kept me interested in beating it, and upon reading this I'm sorry to say I didn't feel the point-and-click part feel 'new'. It's a great series of games and I hate to say it but the truth for me is that I missed a point that I should've saw. Honestly you made a good decision about cancelling the series, even though I enjoyed it, if I miss the whole point of it, others will too and have. So, I suppose all that's left to say is...thank you. you made a good series, and it stays a good series (at least to me).
I really wish everyone made the same effort to understand my perspective about this as you have. Thank you very much, both for the positive thoughts and the slightly less pleasant thoughts; even though I know I didn't completely succeed in changing everyone's view of point-and-click browser games as an art form, it's still reassuring to have that politely confirmed and it's certainly not your fault. All I can do at this point is try hard to make my future projects more enjoyable and intriguing than what I've made until now.
1/4/13
Wow... that's really sad. Anyway I'd like to say thank you for make such a great sequence of Riddle (: With love, Dani >.<
1/1/13
i'm sad that you are discontinuing the riddle series they were like my life but i know its for the best.
do you mind me asking what program u use? u inspired me to create my own games but dont worry it wont be anything close to the riddle series :)
I use Macromedia Flash 8 Professional for all of my stuffs :)
1/1/13
you saved point and click, and deserve to do what you want.
you have made enough games to keep us happy. :)
12/27/12
well i am ok with this.after all,this is your life and you decide what to do.hope to see you and in other game genres......and for those who say that you should continue the series,tell them that they should try to make a game and see the pain and stress it causes.if you had more people to help you with the game you wouldn't be so stressful.
11/29/12
I have loved the series, Will you be makeing any games like Riddle School and Transfer, or do you mean you dont want to make anymore puzzle/point and click games period?
I'm kinda leaving this ambiguous because I'm not completely sure. I might make more point-and-click games but I doubt they'd be anything like Riddle School. For the time being, I'm trying to experiment with other genres.
11/27/12
I can honestly understand your pain. Making basically the same thing over and over for so long would be irritating and boring. Go out and make something fresh, hope the story and humor is good because thats what I liked the most about your games.
P.S. I think that 5 of these games was more than enough, even though they were all enjoyable.
Thank you, one and only cake of golden-ness.
EDIT: Oh that says Coke, not cake. Oops.
11/26/12
JonBro I have been playing these games since the second one came out. Do you think that maybe one day you might want to start doing it again? maybe just finish RT2 and give it an ending that will finsh the series? I do understand that why you dont wish to do it anymore but do you feel you might start it again for fun? (sorry that's like my first question ._. ........ dolphins )
My answer is in the giant news post above your comment. Maybe you should read it.
11/25/12
Ive really enjoyed all of your riddle games and i'm sad to hear it go but i understand you have your reasons. Do you have any idea when we can expect some more of your great games?
I'm planning on having at least one of them done by the end of the year. I don't know for sure if I'll make that deadline but I'm feeling pretty good about it. Beyond that, I haven't really started working on anything that has any sort of deadline, but I'm always working on something.
11/24/12
i just want to say ( u know me the one whos been chattin to u one here bout the blue prints and what not) but why wont u let any one continue the series i mean is it really a bad thing u have loads of fans so why not get it of ur chest and give someone else the responsibility (preferably me :) ) to to the rest of the series i mean why not?
I'm not giving the series away to anyone.
Period.
It's a series I hold very dear to me that I didn't think through clearly enough. It's not just that I don't want to spend the time to make the series--I do not want it to be made. I would sooner shoot myself in the head than have anyone waste years of their lifetime completing something that would have been a GIGANTIC DAMNED FUCKING WORTHLESS DISAPPOINTMENT.
11/18/12
To JonBro, I'm very sorry that you have lost interest in making the riddle transfer series. It is a shame that there won't be any more but at the same time, I would never wish anyone to be unhappy with what they are doing in life. It is quite obvious from your post that you take your work very seriously and although point and click games aren't exactly considered classic art you are obviously an artist. To feel like you have to produce something which you don't love, even though you quite clearly put your heart and soul into your work must be very painful. I can't promise that I fully got the point of the series, but as a lover of point and click games I can understand you wanting to bring back and reinvent the genre. I always viewed your games as entertaining, not just because of the sarcastic comments and dry wit, but because when playing them it felt, like so many other loved point and click games, like I was in the middle of a great story that i couldn't wait to find out what would happen in. That, i believe is the mark of a great story teller, that no matter how (relatively) short the story is, or what genre it takes, you still become completely ingrossed in it. I have loved following along to this story and will really miss it now its gone. I hope that whatever you choose to do next really inspires your creativity and that you are happy. I would like to take this opportunity to thank you very much for your contribution of the riddle school and transfer series, for all your hard work and stress that brought me hours of enjoyment and satisfaction. I really appreciate it. Thank you.
Good luck for your future endevours,
Sazoria.
11/17/12
i hear you out jonbro im really sad that RT2 isnt coming out. IVE BEEN WAITING 12 MONTHS FOR IT!!!!!!!! >_<. UGH i am willing to help with it but i know what your thinking "IT SAYS IN BOLD LETTERS NO ONE HAS PERMISSION TO CONTINUE RIDDLE TRANSFER". im sorry you had to cancel it :( please respond and ill make more comments snif goodbye riddle school ill lovde you forever
I'd like to reply to this but I don't know what to say. So I will say hamburgers.
11/16/12
For curiosity's sake, would you mind if somebody else took it upon themselves to make the rest of the Riddle Transfer series, just so that they'll finally exist?
Yes I would mind. Right there, at the end of the post, it says in bold letters, "No one has permission to continue the series."
11/15/12
then what things will you make please give a brief of what u will make ... please :)
Well, I won't know for sure until they're finished, but I'm always working on something.
11/14/12
Thank you very much Jonbro........... *sniff*.............. I would miss riddle school!!!! Bye bye........ riddle school! I love you forever!
11/10/12
You should finish RT2,3,4,5 because Im waiting for a long time.when I found you cancelled it,Im sad.why you cancelled it? cause they say you should stop?
DONT MAKE EVERYBODY WHO WAIT FOR IT AND LOVE YOU FEEL BAD.
Nobody told me I should stop. It was a choice I had to make. Re-read my reasons for cancellation and perhaps it'll make more sense.
11/9/12
really, well if you think a buildin ggame is interesting how about a game where you have to twist blue prints until the lines are in the right place! you will have to turn and turn in lots of angles and you make a blue print at the right angle. that would be AWESOME!
Mmm... I don't know if I'd be the best person to make a game about twisting blue prints at specified angles. Other programmers have better knowledge of the concepts required to make games like that. Like I said though, I have a few ideas.
11/8/12
Dear JonBro ,
hi i just wanted to say that you should have finish the riddle transfer 2,3,4,5 because riddle transfer is done and its looks weird that theres no riddle transfer 2,3,4,5 and its also ashamed that the riddle transfer 1 dont have the next part , so i was hoping you could do again the riddle transfer 2,3,4,5 only because i was waiting all day when i found out that you cancelled it so pls. hear my request and if possible you make it again i would like to know when is the release date
Thank you !!!
Absolutely not. I'm not going to spend half a decade of my life under extreme stress just because an unfinished series "looks weird."
11/6/12
Riddle School and Riddle Transfer were the two best games there I played at all my life. And now that is the end. I think nobody wanted it, but stop the serie without an end was a shock to many people like me. I think that was a horrible decision. But if it do you happy, you will do it and nobody can continue. That isn't fair. now I have no reason to stay alive. Thank you JonBro, you gave me some great times at the end of my life.
You want to end your life over that? I certainly hope you're joking.
There's significantly more to life than Riddle School or Riddle Transfer, and that's what I had to realize in order to stop making them. It's not unfair; I'm in control of my art and my games, and I'm working now to make them more enjoyable. In the future, I plan to make more involved and unique experiences. If you leave the world now, you won't be able to see how things get better.
10/31/12
so have you thought about what other games you are going to make yet? i have a suggestion!
not an escape game, but a puzzle game. not jigsaw or sliding
and not escaping but like building or making. better yet an adventure game!! :)
I have a few ideas already, but a puzzle game about building or making something could be rather interesting. I'll think about that.
10/28/12
I read this now I used to follow the riddle school/transfer series and as somebody who really likes this series, I think if he doesn't want to do more of them, there is no point on insisting because I think if a person doesn't think that his/her work is good, than it's not done with effort and just made for people or made fast/carelessly. Jonbro said that he's really sick of the series and because of that I don't think that he can do a good game of the series because he wants to make something different and definitely better than riddle series according to him. I still think the riddle series are pretty good but I got the wrong point too. Jonbro said that he wanted to show people that if a point and click adventure game is done cleverly, it can be different and more playable. He wanted to show us that point and click games are not a dead genre and can be done different. But until I read this, I thought the point of this series were make a funny game with puzzles. I mean Phil's jokes, character reactions etc. (The character explainations in extras of Riddle School were very very funny according to me) and I now see that I missed the point. I thought that this series are about the jokes, and nothing like making a different point and click game came to my mind. If Jonbro makes any new games (Absolutely not with Riddle School characters as he said already) I can comment on them positively or negatively because I don't know what's he doing next yet, but the point is he will be doing the games that he thinks are good and not the games that he thinks are terrible.
^ All of this is absolutely right.
Especially "if a person doesn't think that his/her work is good, then it's not done with effort and just made for people or made fast/carelessly" and the part at the end.
I can say honestly that I don't know if people will respond positively or negatively to what I have planned next. I feel as though people will have high expectations of me no matter what and will probably be disappointed if I try something different. But it all boils down to me making the kinds of games I'd want to play, and the kinds of movies I'd love to watch myself, because if my work is made only for others, it's not nearly so personal. Everyone's art should reflect themselves.
10/28/12
oh, im really sorry for making you frustrated but its just that i love it :( i have been making an animation of them and when its ready i would really like you to see it :) i did them all just to honour them.
any way if you arent going to make any riddle schools then what other games are you going to make?
It's fine, and I really didn't mean to take out my anger specifically on your comment, but it was a built up anger from many other similar comments, and it was the multitude that got to me.
I'm not entirely sure what kinds of games I'd like to make yet, but I have some ideas.
10/25/12
if you would make another escape game then why not with riddle school characters?
LOOK AT THEM.
THEY'RE CIRCLES WITH EYES, FOR PETE'S SAKE.
I'VE BEEN MAKING GAMES OUT OF THESE STUPID LITTLE UNORIGINAL TRASH HEAP CHARACTERS THAT LOOK LIKE PLAY-DOUGH FOR FIVE WHOLE FREAKING YEARS.
I DON'T WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH THEM ANYMORE. I'M THROUGH WITH THEM.
I AM FULLY CAPABLE OF MAKING THINGS THAT ARE BETTER.
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Sorry, it's just... Ugh. I thought I made that point painfully clear in my ridiculously long, heartfelt cancellation post, but a number of people still don't get that I'm sick of the series.
So, this message isn't directed to you specifically, but everyone who doesn't realize that I've moved on.
10/24/12
When i tried to load http://jonbro.newgrounds.com/news /post/732386 i said error
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The link works. Maybe it's because of the space after the word 'news'.